There was a piece of evidence exposed in plain sight that might solve once and for all that no 757 hit the Pentagon.

I am the person that first put on the table that it was an A3 Skywarrior that hit the Pentagon. Many believe that and many others have gone out of their way to dispute it, unsuccessfully thus far. If I list the pros and cons, I have over ten valid reasons to stick with the A3 as the likely doer and only one reason not to stick with it and it is a weak reason to look for a 757.

This might be the rarest photo of all regarding what was found at the Pentagon on the lawn. It could be a piece of "blast proof glass" from the building but I have reasons to doubt that. This type of glass, much heavier duty than is on your automobile, does not break like normal glass. In that I mean it is laminated, multi-layer and if it shatters it will remain pretty much intact as seen or wind up in thousands of pieces all about the same size. Sort of like when someone bashes in a car window and you get Burglar Diamonds all over the inside of your car.

For this piece to have that many shatter lines and remain intact means one of several things. It is much thicker than normal glass and laminated, possibly even polarized or tinted, and is probably pretty close to the shape that is now although not in its frame. I have been in the Pentagon and cannot remember seeing any polarized or tinted windows or laminated glass that thick or remotely being of that shape.

It is an oddity and I have not yet formed a final opinion on it but it is headed that way.

Note the straight edge (top) and that would be one possible centerline of the plane if my thoughts on this are accurate. This is one possibility - the front straight edge would be oriented towards the nose of the plane and the curved line on the bottom would follow the right side of the airplane (or left side if inverted). As an alternative view and positioning of the glass, in the Navy plane photo below (with pilot visible) the shortest edge above would be on the left side of the airplane and the longest curved line would be oriented toward the nose of the airplane. The left could be the middle frame and the upper part the edge at the top of the fuselage.

The more we dug into this, the more likely it is that the second alternative is the right answer.

The original versions of the A3 Skywarrior had windows that nominally fit that shape and there were multiple canopy styles as we have learned from looking at the various versions of the A3. Remember, those were made for the Navy as carrier based bombers, tankers and reconnaissance planes and they were made for the USAF as reconnaissance and downsized bombers.

You know those Pentagon folks and defense contractors, they never quit re-engineering things so lots of money can be spent. Some times they are improving but many times they are just spending money under the "use it or lose it" annual budget rule.

The later versions were a little sleeker and you can clearly see that the windows and overall configuration of the canopy was changed over time as was the nose of the airplane. This picture below is one of the A3 Skywarriors operated by Raytheon ­ Hughes. Note the slight recess of the window on the right which means that the outer shape you see might not be exactly the size or shape of the glass. The shadow on the upper part of the rear window suggests that it might be slightly recessed. The second photo below does not seem to have that same recess. In the second photograph below, the rear window appears to be a little bigger, at least to me and the side window is different. The next two photos show two different canopy styles.

Note the difference in the canopy above, no side window, and the one below with the side window.

Jon Carlson found this photo of an A3 on a carrier deck museum. The rear piece (on the right) and possibly the piece overhead (above the main window the pilot sees through) are close.

This slightly different view of the Raytheon ­ Hughes A3 shows that there is a window above the main windshield and also appears to be close in shape. If you look real close you can tell there may be a metal strip down the middle on this particular airplane separating the glass on each side. That is consistent with the old Navy photo on down the page. That divider would produce a shape very much like the piece of laminated glass found on the Pentagon lawn.

This old Navy photo shows a different angle and the piece right above the pilot's helmet just might be the piece found on the Pentagon lawn. Maybe it is just me or the first photo in this email, but that piece on the Pentagon lawn appears to have a slight curvature to it, just like most of the windows on the A3. Note that shortest edge would be above the pilot's left shoulder.

I thought about how an overhead window could be popped out and land on the Pentagon lawn. I then recalled a friend who hit a bridge abutment many years ago and his sunroof popped out and was found 50 feet behind his impact point and it was intact frame and glass. The glass was shattered like in the first photo but did not come out of the frame. Luckily he and the sunroof survived but the car did not. His car recoiled about 3 feet and the sunroof landed 50 feet away in the reverse direction he was heading and did not shatter.

The crumpling and effects of impact would be significant as soon as the nose of an A3 or any airplane hit the Pentagon. The inertial and torque forces would be almost instantaneous just like a car hitting an immovable object and the accordion effect sets into the body of the craft as it starts to crumple. However, anything that is not flat faced, is perpendicular to the building wall, could pop out with the forces hurling away from the building rather than into it. That is one of Newton's law of physics, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

There is another clue on the Pentagon lawn to substantiate this. The piece painted to be part of the American insignia, which is on the fuselage, was out on the lawn too. If you look at it real close its curvature and size do not appear to be large enough for a 757 and it did not disappear into the building. It want away from the building.

What you cannot find is a window of that shape or even remotely of that shape on a 757. That is a fact and may well be a prosecutorial fact.

I think I will let the 9-11 folks munch on that awhile and see what they come up with. Is it Pentagon glass? Probably not. Is it from a 757? Definitely not unless that shattered remains did what laminated glass does not normally do. Is it from an A3 Skywarrior? Most likely source until someone can come up with a better explanation.

Seems Portland.Indy.Media cannot make up their minds about me. First they bash me and then they allow a post that substantiates what I have been saying all along:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/307126.shtml

My read on that piece of laminated glass is simply this: appears to be an overhead canopy window that is in two parts. Some A3's did in fact have divided overhead view ports.

I still cannot find anything like it on any 737, 757, or 767.

While we are on this particular photograph, note how much lower the 757 engines hang under the fuselage of the jet. If that impact on that car was the edge of a 757 wing, there would be deep gouges in the Pentagon lawn where the 757 engines would be dragging below ground level. Said another way, there would have been gouges, ripped up dirt and sod, wings ripped off, 757 engines and wings outside of the Pentagon that did not mysteriously disappear in the fire that was not hot enough to melt them down to nothing any way.

I think it is time to seat a grand jury. Another 9-11 Commission would be a waste of time and it is way past time for justice.

Best regards,
Karl
kwbschwarz2@snet.net